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Episode 33: How to Understand a Primary Leader with Dr. Fred Johnson

Updated: Jan 20


Join Dr. Fred Johnson and Nick Nighbor as they talk about primary leaders.


A primary leader is the second tier in high change leaders. They are pragmatic and natural problem solvers; they connect the dots.


Visionary leaders need primary leaders to ground them and set the course for success! Similarly, primary leaders need a visionary to push for excellence, not perfection. A visionary leader is their greatest partner (see episode 29 for information on a visionary leader).


The book, Is Everyone on the Boat? by Dr. Fred Johnson and Dr. Paul Metler, highlights the different types of leaders in an organization.


Tune into Nick and Dr. Fred as they go more in-depth on primary leaders in an organization.

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